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Old 02-10-2010, 02:52 PM
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I'll have to think about that....
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Old 02-10-2010, 08:02 PM
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Sorry guys a cant understand and translate all, but where`s the problem to teach correct jumps and jump 500 or 800 or xxxx? jumps. First of all there´s a number of jumps, only a number there`s no must only a can!

I have a song call 1000 jumps 26:21 minutes icluding We Will Rock You - Evian 81RPM, Good Thing - Fine Young Cannibals 82 RPM, also Tainted Love, Sonne - Rammstein and and and! All Songs are about 81-83 RPM.

The basic requirement is a constant cadence, resistance and breathing.
After several minutes the body comes into a stable static state below the lactate threshold.
It is a typical "Body and Mind" and try all to reduce your heart rate class.
I like it!
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Old 02-11-2010, 02:16 PM
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Sorry guys a cant understand and translate all, but where`s the problem to teach correct jumps and jump 500 or 800 or xxxx? jumps. First of all there´s a number of jumps, only a number there`s no must only a can!

I have a song call 1000 jumps 26:21 minutes icluding We Will Rock You - Evian 81RPM, Good Thing - Fine Young Cannibals 82 RPM, also Tainted Love, Sonne - Rammstein and and and! All Songs are about 81-83 RPM.

The basic requirement is a constant cadence, resistance and breathing.
After several minutes the body comes into a stable static state below the lactate threshold.
It is a typical "Body and Mind" and try all to reduce your heart rate class.
I like it!
Andi
Sounds like a great mix! But let me give you my opinion on the RMI's (repetitions motion injuries) and ROM (range of motion) problems that arise form repeated movements on unstable platforms. Add that with fatigue and your (coaches) ability to control peoples ability to "keep the resistance on" which creates those stable platforms is simply not going to happen you cant control peoples movements when there is 30 of even as few as 5 in a class. In addition, I am one that tries to create a realistic environment (as much as a stationary bike is able) in my classes and these movements to me are risks and at times seem like time fillers or tricks. I am not going to tell you to stop because hey thats your assumption of risk. I am just making my position available so that newer instructors have both sides of the fence to form their own values on.
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Old 02-12-2010, 09:00 AM
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Hi Mike,
i think there`s no real reason against jumps, whether one or hundred.
ROM is no problem because you dont modify any angle from the first to the 200th jump.
RMI can be a problem shure, 40 minutes flat with 110RPM can also be a problem, ditto 20 minutes hill with 30RPM. Conclusively the art of wisdom is critical.
Jumps are always not easy, because you have to coordinate different movements and the call of jumps is additional bad.
Less resistance, to high cadence, used to early in classes, incorrect technique, knee problems, to high HR......!
At last a jump class is the end of a long journey, called cycling with enough resistance, try all to reduce your Heart Rate and sit down if you reach your target pulse!
Nevertheless we are all here to listen to other opinions.
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Old 02-12-2010, 05:09 PM
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Once in a while.. love to tell the class we will start jumping on a hill. They are on their own. My only guidance is maintain the form and please do not jump quicker than a slow 8 count. Now.. do 300 jumps (sometimes 500). What I don't tell them is that there are only 10 minutes left after which I guesstimate that we did 300 jumps COMBINED as a team. Play with the minds.
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Old 02-13-2010, 11:06 AM
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This is great advice. Although I would disagree with doing that many jumps, and the RMO/RMI details. But the point is you have thought about it, made adjustments to other variables(cadence, resistance etc.) to lower the risk. Will everyone listen? probably not. But that will happen no matter what. Anyone can make a "safe" movement/effort, riskier if they do not listen. The key of course is the level of instruction.
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